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Grenades down the hatch?
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VonMudra
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That actually did happen. There is another tale of another guy, a Lieutenant, who lost his M1 carbine in the jump, and was handed a K98k to use until he could be issued a replacement carbine. Apparently, the Lieutenant was unable to figure out how to operate the K98k....despite being essentially the same as the Springfield rifles he would have trained with....
This seems as an interesting feature.
First a question: Is it planned for the tank to support 2 or more players inside it (not neccesarely needed to operate, but simply have 2 players inside it).
If so, it could be done that when one player peeks out of the hatch, the hatch could remain open leaving the possibility for somebody to throw a grenade inside it.
First a question: Is it planned for the tank to support 2 or more players inside it (not neccesarely needed to operate, but simply have 2 players inside it).
If so, it could be done that when one player peeks out of the hatch, the hatch could remain open leaving the possibility for somebody to throw a grenade inside it.
Roughbeak
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If so, then can you bop the tank commander on his head with a grenade.
there is nothing like getting smoke grenade kills!!
Miller786
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I remeber seeing somewhere that that some allied troops recieved training on how to succesfully operate captured german weaponry (maybe commandos or something like that)
Edit: found this video on youtube, amazing, isnt it? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9draRRHv4g&desktop_uri=/watch?v=h9draRRHv4g
However it was risky because the sound of k98s and other weapons was caratteristic leading to friendly fire during any operation that include two or more separeted attack groups.
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combattank
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What about throwing back cooked grenades?
Koenigstiger
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I don't know about receiving training but sure there were quick instructive videos on how to operate them in the field
titsmcgee852
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There's a video from Syria of a guy throwing two frags down the barrel of a tank and disabling it.
EDIT: in response to that guy on the first page who asked
EDIT: in response to that guy on the first page who asked
VonMudra
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My guess on what happened there is that the first grenade spooked the hell out of the tank crew, and they may have opened the breach to try and clear out debris. One should remember that tank barrels and breeches are made to take a hell of a lot more explosive force than a grenade. Then, while that was open, the guy got a second grenade in which proceeded to knock out the tank.
DerJoachim
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That video is laughable and pure propaganda.
Those tanks were abandoned well before those snackbarians were able to even get remotely close to the tanks, therefore the hatch were already opened, they hopped and flushed some grenades inside just as a PR stunt and made a video for propaganda purpose, they sent these videos to Saudi Arabia and Qatar where they get theyr funds from, each brigades do propaganda videos to get more funds, thats how it work in Syria.
And as already been stated, ofcourse i am against this arcadish idea, because it was impossible to throw a grenade down the hatch of a working and manned tank, just sayng.
Those tanks were abandoned well before those snackbarians were able to even get remotely close to the tanks, therefore the hatch were already opened, they hopped and flushed some grenades inside just as a PR stunt and made a video for propaganda purpose, they sent these videos to Saudi Arabia and Qatar where they get theyr funds from, each brigades do propaganda videos to get more funds, thats how it work in Syria.
And as already been stated, ofcourse i am against this arcadish idea, because it was impossible to throw a grenade down the hatch of a working and manned tank, just sayng.
Koenigstiger
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Von Mudra already stated that tank breeches and barrels are made to withstand the explosive force of shells (going out of course not in ), a grenade simply down the barrel is unlikely to have done any damage unless the breech was open.
Why this tank was alone I can't say, you could imagine in World War 2 where tanks were usually supported by infantry a feat like this would be much harder to pull off.
Just grab a PIAT instead, Bringt die Panzerschreck vorwärts
I'd much rather fire an 88mm rocket designed for destroying tanks than running up to it with a grenade on the off chance that it MIGHT (big ****** might in this instance) do some damage.
), a grenade simply down the barrel is unlikely to have done any damage unless the breech was open.Why this tank was alone I can't say, you could imagine in World War 2 where tanks were usually supported by infantry a feat like this would be much harder to pull off.
Just grab a PIAT instead, Bringt die Panzerschreck vorwärts
I'd much rather fire an 88mm rocket designed for destroying tanks than running up to it with a grenade on the off chance that it MIGHT (big ****** might in this instance) do some damage.
Aniallator
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Alright, contrary to what you saw in Saving Private Ryan, dropping grenades down a tank's hatch is out of the question, but what about tossing grenades through the view slit? Unless view slits were too narrow, I think you should be able to chuck a grenade or two into one. If they are too narrow, then perhaps being able to fire into the view slit with a gun? Just an idea . . . it would encourage infantry support for tanks, which is often critical to a tank's success.
But the Russians did use the PTRD and PTRS AT rifles to break the glass and blind the crew (at least in theory)? Too bad Allies didn't have AT rifles of similar strength... Maybe .50 cal would do though? I'd love to have a "broken glass" effect if hit in the view slit. (on the off chance it would actually happen, is it worth the coding effort though - that's debatable...)
VonMudra
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They did, however, carry multiple vision blocks for replacing them. For the most part, apart from some cases of Russian AT rifles purposefully shooting out vision blocks (and even then they couldn't penetrate, only shatter them and force that crewman to be annoyed/blind for a short time). If the PTRD/PTRS can't penetrate, then the 50cal sure as hell can't. Because of this, playability, and the simple fact that it was not a tactic I've heard out of any battle accounts in Normandy, it won't be something we'll represent.
VonMudra
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Well, you could throw enough bodies in front of it that it gets bogged down in the mush of guts and bloody mud.
In all seriousness, there should be enough actual AT weapons (AT guns, fausts, PIATs, etc) to deal with threats and ensure that tanks do not simply charge headlong into infantry formations. If they are able to do that, it will be more the fault of the players for not taking care to bring along armour support/at guns/at weaponry.
In all seriousness, there should be enough actual AT weapons (AT guns, fausts, PIATs, etc) to deal with threats and ensure that tanks do not simply charge headlong into infantry formations. If they are able to do that, it will be more the fault of the players for not taking care to bring along armour support/at guns/at weaponry.
Aniallator
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If it's not too much, will we see AT mines, such as the G.S. Mk. V and the Tellermine 42?
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